Some of us inspected hundreds of 19th century photographs. We are used to seeing horse carriages and horse cars on city streets. First cable cars can be spotted in late the 1860s, though these were allegedly invented in 1820s. First electric tram car was tested in 1875 in Russia, and that about matches available photographs. This is our narrative.
KD: Let's take a look at some of the 19th century streets now.
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If we were to believe drawings similar to the one below, there were some pretty wide streets back in the day.
Nothing is hidden. At the same time, separating glimpses of a possible reality from the narrative can be a tedious task. Personally, I always look for details not advertised by the PTB. I am not gonna cover any steam vehicles pertaining to the 18th century. The 19th century is hard enough.
In 1801 Richard Trevithick constructed an experimental steam-driven vehicle (Puffing Devil) which was equipped with a firebox enclosed within the boiler, with one vertical cylinder, the motion of the single piston being transmitted directly to the driving wheels by means of connecting rods.
Trevithick soon built the London Steam Carriage that ran successfully in London in 1803, but the venture failed to attract interest and soon folded up.
1862Check out this weirdo riding a horseless carriage in 1862. This is unacceptable, and he needs to get along with the program. We wanna see horses and donkeys.
1880Test drive of a steam truck in Berlin in 1880. System by A. Bollée, patent dated July 17, 1879. Tractor with five trailers and a load of 5,000 t.
1880A test drive of a new steam car on the Charlottenburger Chaussee near Berlin. This is about as much as was readily available about this vehicle.
PhotographsI have this feeling that we are being played for fools here. I understand that the narrative compliant explanation for the visual resemblance and similar levels of technological advancement could sound like this:
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Personal Steam Powered TransportationIt's only logical to assume, that along with public steam powered transportation, there had to be personal steam powered vehicles navigating those wide 19th century streets.
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I'm a bit tired from saving and posting images. There were tons of steam vehicles in the end of the 19th century: buses, cars, trucks, bicycles, tricycles.
~50 years prior, in 1828, the following image was published:
In 1831 they followed up with the below drawing.
Remarkable, but 1830s and 1870s vehicles look very similar. Of course, we need to remember that:
Here is my distorted take on the above:
By 1894, every major city in the world was buried in horse shit.
Here is what I DID and DID NOT see in the clip:
KD Summary: To be honest, that's some pretty elaborate crap. When were photographs of some of the above steam powered buses really made?
If transporting people was the only thing those 1820s-1830s steam engines could do, that's one thing. But...
City Streets
But now and then, we have a pleasure of seeing city streets similar to the ones below. In this case we have Chicago and New York. Streets are wide, and given an opportunity, our contemporary cars would have done just fine in these streets.- Question: were these streets designed for horses and horse carriages?
- What if they were not?
- And, if streets were designed for motorized traffic, where are the photographs?
- Where are 1850s, 1860s, and may be 1870s , 1880s and 1890's photographs where these vehicles occupy city streets or any other roadways?
KD: Let's take a look at some of the 19th century streets now.
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Nothing is hidden. At the same time, separating glimpses of a possible reality from the narrative can be a tedious task. Personally, I always look for details not advertised by the PTB. I am not gonna cover any steam vehicles pertaining to the 18th century. The 19th century is hard enough.
In 1801 Richard Trevithick constructed an experimental steam-driven vehicle (Puffing Devil) which was equipped with a firebox enclosed within the boiler, with one vertical cylinder, the motion of the single piston being transmitted directly to the driving wheels by means of connecting rods.
- It was reported as weighing 1520 kg fully loaded, with a speed of 14.5 km/h (9 mph) on the flat.
- During its first trip it was left unattended and was "self destructed".
Trevithick soon built the London Steam Carriage that ran successfully in London in 1803, but the venture failed to attract interest and soon folded up.
- The London Steam Carriage was an early steam-powered road vehicle constructed by Richard Trevithick in 1803 and the world's first self-propelled passenger-carrying vehicle.
- Not all the details of the carriage are known but the drawings which accompanied the original patent have survived, as have contemporary drawings made by a naval engineer who was sent to examine it. Further information has also been obtained from eyewitness accounts.
- Following its completion, the London Steam Carriage was driven about 10 miles (16 km) through the streets of London to Paddington and back via Islington, with seven or eight passengers, at a speed of 4–9 miles per hour (6.4–14.5 km/h), the streets having been closed to other traffic.
- On a subsequent evening, Trevithick and his colleague crashed the carriage into some house railings and, as a result of this, plus lack of interest in the carriage by potential purchasers, and its demonstrations having exhausted the inventors' financial resources, it was eventually scrapped, the engine being used in a mill which made hoops for barrels.
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As was stated above, "Not all the details of the carriage are known...". Who knows what size people it was originally designed to carry?
Steam Buses
There was an amphibious steam powered craft developed in 1805 as well, but let's move up to 1820s-1830s. That's when (allegedly) first buses entered the stage. A steam bus is a bus powered by a steam engine. Early steam-powered vehicles designed for carrying passengers were more usually known as steam carriages, although this term was sometimes used to describe other early experimental vehicles too.- Regular intercity bus services by steam-powered buses were pioneered in England in the 1830s by associates of Sir Goldsworthy Gurney and by Walter Hancock among others, running reliable services over road conditions which were too hazardous for horse-drawn transportation.
- Steam carriages were much less likely to overturn, and did not "run away with" the customer as horses sometimes did.
- They travelled faster than horse-drawn carriages (24 mph over four miles and an average of 12 mph over longer distances).
- They could run at a half to a third of the cost of horse-drawn carriages.
- Their brakes did not lock and drag like horse-drawn transport (a phenomenon that increased damage to roads).
- According to engineers, steam carriages caused one-third the damage to the road surface as that caused by the action of horses' feet.
- Indeed, the wide tires of the steam carriages (designed for better traction) caused virtually no damage to the streets, whereas the narrow wheels of the horse drawn carriages (designed to reduce the effort required of horses) tended to cause rutting.
- However, the heavy road tolls imposed by the Turnpike Acts discouraged steam road vehicles and left the way clear for the horse bus companies, and from 1861 onwards, harsh legislation virtually eliminated mechanically propelled vehicles altogether from the roads of Great Britain for 30 years, the Locomotive Act of that year imposing restrictive speed limits on "road locomotives" of 5 mph in towns and cities, and 10 mph in the country.
- In 1865 the Locomotives Act of that year (the famous Red Flag Act) further reduced the speed limits to 4 mph in the country and just 2 mph in towns and cities, additionally requiring a man bearing a red flag to precede every vehicle. At the same time, the act gave local authorities the power to specify the hours during which any such vehicle might use the roads.
- In 1881, the engineer John Inshaw built a steam carriage for use in Aston, Birmingham, UK. Capable of carrying ten people at speeds of up to 12 mph, Inshaw discontinued his experiments due to the legislation then in force.
Images and Photographs
A while ago I wrote a small article covering some of the early steam buses. Don't think I did a good enough job there. I will borrow some of the images from that article. Let's see what them 19th century savages had back then.1827 Goldsworthy Gurney Steam Carriage
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1833 Hancock's Enterprise Steam Omnibus
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1830s Bus Stop
In 1829 Hancock built a small ten-seater bus called the Infant, with which in 1831 he began a regular service between Stratford and London. It was powered by an oscillating engine carried on an outrigger behind the back axle.
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1833 Hancock's Enterprise Steam Omnibus
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1830s Bus Stop
- The boiler was vertical and made up of a series of narrow parallel water chambers.
- A fire was situated beneath the boiler and the fire was fanned by bellows worked by the engine.
- There was a hopper to feed in the coke.
- Walter Hancock - Graces Guide
- KD: They probably chose to omit any coal smoke from the images, right?
Steam carriages Autopsy, Era and Infant
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A Load of BS
The below excerpt is from a book written in 1900. Isn't it amazing that we consider ourselves to be smart, yet are gullible enough to believe in something like that?- First Industrial Revolution: from about 1760 to sometime between 1820 and 1840.
- Second Industrial Revolution: generally dated between 1870 and 1914.
- KD: what happened between 1840 and 1870?
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- KD: I'm not sure on the weight.
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- They do look similar, because we picked up where we left off.
- Amédée père manufactured his first steam vehicle the L'Obéissante in 1873 and made the first road trip between Paris and Le Mans in 18 hours.
- The L'Obéissante carried 12 passengers and had a cruising speed of 30 km/h (19 mph) and a top speed of 40 km/h (25 mph).
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CONCLUSION
I'm a bit tired from saving and posting images. There were tons of steam vehicles in the end of the 19th century: buses, cars, trucks, bicycles, tricycles.
~50 years prior, in 1828, the following image was published:
- The Progress of Steam. A View in Regent's Park, 1831', 1828. Steam-powered coaches, horses, tricycles, including one with body like a teapot, are speeding along or blowing up and causing traffic chaos in Regent's Park, London.
Here is my distorted take on the above:
- I have this feeling that after approximately 1839, the PTB went straight to 1871.
- It's like 30 years in between have never existed.
- Check out these fake US Civil War photographs fraudulently dated with 1860s.
- Nice quality images, aren't they? Some even have great quality for the claimed 1860s.
- Take a look at these 1850s, 1860s and 1870s abandoned cities. Check out 1878 San Francisco.
- Once again, the quality is above satisfactory for the respective dates.
- Where are the high quality photographs of the steam powered vehicles?
- We have many "portrait" type photographs of various steam vehicles between 1873-ish and 1900.
- We have thousands of photographs of the actual city streets covering the same time gap.
- QUESTION: How come we do not see any of these vehicles in their natural environment?
- Meaning either being driven, or parked next to a curb.
- In 1880, New York City removed 15,000 dead horses from the street.
- Chicago removed 9,202 horse carcasses as late as 1916.
- It's estimated that each horse produced 15-30 pounds of manure per day.
- Remember, the horse population in New York City was about 170,000 in the 1880s.
- That means there were 3-4 million pounds of manure piling onto city streets each day.
- In 1894, the Times of London estimated that every street in the city would be buried 9 feet deep in horse manure by 1950.
- A New York editorial estimated that horse manure would rival the height of Manhattan's 30-story buildings by 1930.
- Also, each horse produced about a quart of urine daily.
- That makes about 40,000 gallons per day in New York and Brooklyn.
- Great horse manure crisis of 1894
- Great Horse Manure Crisis of 1894
- The Great Horse Manure Crisis of 1894
By 1894, every major city in the world was buried in horse shit.
- Why did it happen by 1894 and not earlier?
- Did they not have centuries of experience, and developed infrastructure that was handling it before?
- It appears that cities clearly did not have this developed manure handling infrastructure.
- Why not?
- Please pay attention to the road surface for signs of excessive manure.
- Evaluate the volume of the horse traffic.
- Especially starting at 1:47.
- How many motorized vehicles can you count?
1890s Paris
Here is what I DID and DID NOT see in the clip:
- I did not see a single motorized vehicle.
- Ironically, a good chunk of the above posted photographs depict French made steam powered vehicles.
- I did see hundreds of horse carriages.
- I did not see any manure indicating that this horse traffic is a daily occurrence.
- There were some bits and pieces. Those were probably produced by the fake "on camera" procession.
- I did not see a single manure clean up crew.
KD Summary: To be honest, that's some pretty elaborate crap. When were photographs of some of the above steam powered buses really made?
If transporting people was the only thing those 1820s-1830s steam engines could do, that's one thing. But...
- A steam powered bus capable of transporting 20-50 people at an average speed of 12-15 MPH (with max speed of 21 MPH) in 1832-36, could also be turned into a truck, and transport construction materials.
- The exact same is valid for the agricultural needs.
- Would military industrial complex ignore a superior mode of transportation in favor of horses? I don't think so.
- What if Napoleon did not use horses to invade Russian in 1812?
- Some time prior to it, horses were not required, because motorized vehicles were used. Streets were clean.
- Something happened, and using motorized vehicles was no longer an option.
- People were forced to start using horses. Horses covered city streets in piss and shit.
- Motorized traffic was re-introduced, and streets became clean again.
- Where are the photographs showing the abovementioned steam powered vehicles being a part of everyday traffic?
