Helen of Troy, The Fountain of Light and the Eye of Ra Device

Ra's disc is most always red. Why? The red color in the spectrum means a less intense light than the orange, yellow, green, blue, and violet light spectrum. A red sun means the spectrum is skewed to the infrared or to a less intense energy. We saw that in the California fires with smoke and particulates in the sky, light from the sun is absorbed by them and re-emitted as reddish light. So we must assume the sun at that time was was either much less high frequency light emitting or certain particulates in the atmosphere or clouds caused the absorption and re-emitting of light in the red and infrared spectrum. There are pictographs of Egyptians fishing, planting rice, taking care of animals, etc. with only a skimpy wrapping about the genitals at least for men. Now if you were to do this in the present sun condition even a native Egyptian would be severely burned after a couple of hours. Now your skin needs to be covered completely to avoid burning in the midday sun, therefore the atmospheric conditions when Ra was ascendant lessened the frequency of light creating an environment of less light frequency intensity. A workable hypothesis is that the atmosphere was denser and had a variety of particulates high in the sky which allowed light from the sun to be absorbed and re-emitted as red light . These series of particulate cloud formations in the dense atmosphere is like a blanket which would absorb the raw sunlight light and re-emitting it in the red and infrared creating a world where the temperature gradient around the world was a comfortable 75 degrees(approximately) F all the way to the poles. The sun could be seen but only through the haze of the particulate band clouds. The asp circling the Ra sun is the band clouds that covered the sky. There were many of these band cloud formations circling earth in the beginning. When a catastrophe happened the band particulate cloud nearest the earth would precipitate out of the atmosphere with its particulates and cover the earth. These were usually mixed with rain and caused the oceans to swell when a band cloud touched down. These cloud catastrophes had positive and negative effects. Flooding was a concern and temperature instability causing coolness. These crashes were the prime cause of ice age intervals. The Stele of Lady Taperet shows the cloud band or "The Asp" is shown releasing the waters and materials from heaven. The different colors of the "rain" shows many elements were contained in these Asp band clouds. Clay, sulfur, carbons, and other materials rained down upon the land. The layers of clay, sand, gravel and other materials dropped have no lifeforms in the material. They were dropped from the sky. These cloud band dropping events triggered cultural collapses and increased the oceans. The red Ra was at the end of the band cloud world where the sun was seen dimly as a red god causing these events. Approximately there were 14 of these events that was the cause of the periodic ice ages.

Atlantis, your ideas resonate with thoughts of the stories about the Anunnaki, the Bible (a synopsis below), and Ruby Glass Gold. Ruby glass being the most likely in my mind to be what was above the heads of the divine in Egyptian lore. And a special piece with some impressive powers, being the Troy battle subject. Rhazes (about 865–between 923 and 935) apparently believed that he had found a gold locating magnet. In his formula, the earliest known written account of a gold ruby glass, he stated that "this glass attracted gold and silver like a magnet, and that it could convert 1,000 times its weight into gold." Not unlike a fabled sorcerers stone?​

Thos was a quote from a book, not sure how to find it. Though is cited in the Ruby Glass Link as citation 1. For a translation and comment on manuscripts in Göttingen, Leipzig, and the Escorial in Madrid, see Sheybany 1967; cf. Kerssenbrock-Krosigk 2001, pp. 13 and 21.

Though you peaked my interest with the theory of stating, that the problem was one of sun screen particulate(s) in the sky. Today we typically use suncreens that include a combination of two to six of the following active ingredients: oxybenzone, avobenzone, octisalate, octocrylene, homosalate and octinoxate. Mineral sunscreens use zinc oxide and/or titanium dioxide.

The Anunnaki's (Diety of Sumerian Lore) home planet needed gold in the atmosphere which was disappearing so they basically came to Earth (the story goes) to mine gold and take it back to their home planet. Moon could have been a staging ground for transportation. According to the Ancient Alien theory, the Anunnaki genetically altered primitive mankind and created a labor force which allowed them to mine gold without using their own people. Who were simply sick of the conditions and revolted. Or possibly, this was a re-write of an earlier story that was something more like the 'Gods created/employed humans to mine gold for the atmosphere of earth?"

Though, if we jump to the Hebrew/Phoenician history books, they also reiterate that there were no rainbows in the sky before ‘the flood’. This is the most prudent

As the story goes. The bible describes the earth as a very very very different place prior to this catastrophe that was world wide. In order to draw a picture of this terraformed planet from the bible, you have to extrapolate from the various statements it makes and combine them together.

This was a lush planet filled richly with plant life and animal life of all kinds, far different than what we see around us today, real garden of eden? There was very little temperature difference anywhere on the planet. Further, what the bible calls mountains were actually very long hills. There were no jagged mountains rising into the air. You would see a gently rolling landscape if you denuded the land of plant life, and I am sure their were plenty of clearings and meadows, and flatlands, etc. Makes me think that at the time dinosaurs could have been basically lawn movers for the paradise.

The bible says that the land was watered by fresh water fountains that would spray up out of the earth high into the air and the water would then fall like rain, but we are talking about a decent humidity level in the air also would would allow dew to form. Like Buttword, from Rick and Morty Thus, we know that volcanic heat drove this sprinkler system. In order for this to work, the earth would have had to of been very porous just under the surface to allow the waters to percolate downward to be heated and then resent upwards in shafts to drive the fountains. Kind of like watching Old Faithful in Yellowstone National Park. It is entirely possible that rivers and streams also rose out of the earth, flowed for a distance and then were leached back into the ground.

It is this porous nature of the earth that the bible speaks of that was shattered and collapsed as the entire earth shook, such collapsing of these underground cave systems or percolate systems is what sent huge volumes of water exploding upward onto the surface.

But, that wasn’t the only source of water that contributed to this flood. There was also something referred to as the ‘Windows of Heaven’ (Ringwoodite?) that shattered and fell to earth. Now, we think of water being suspended in clouds, but no one would think to call a cloud a window. A window is something that allows one to see through it from either side. Thus, the bible is speaking of something that is far above the atmosphere that is transparent. What could that be?

Since we know it is transparent and separate from the atmosphere, it is highly probable that in the pre-flood world, the sun’s light was filtered through this window holding out the sun’s harsh rays we experience today. I’m not saying it was a dim world, far to the contrary, but rather, that much more of the harmful radiation was softened. Just as it is hard to get a sunburn from sunlight coming through a glass window, perhaps the same effect was in play on the new earth. But they could see the Moon and the Stars at night is evident by the wording.

Since we know that the ‘Windows of Heaven’ were far up in the atmosphere and from the way they are referred to they were made of water itself, which means that water was somehow suspended on top of the atmosphere, well, that would take a brand new state of water, wouldn’t it?

Luckily, we do have a brand new state of water just discovered a few years back. Water as molecular dipole crystals! A different kind of frozen water on the molecular level forming individual molecular crystals. And, since they also have north and south ends, like little magnets, they would naturally align themselves with magnetic north and south and their density would spread them out fairly evenly around the world, like a protective transparent skin on top of the atmosphere. It could be pretty thick, or not. As long as they remained at their altitude they would remain as crystals. Cause them to descend in altitude, say from gushes of atmosphere heaving upward and falling downward caused by some great cataclysm and they would form into a rain storm to end all rain storms…

In all effect, a very large share of the present ocean we see on this planet could well have been suspended at the top of the atmosphere in the form of these singular molecular dipole crystals and yet another large percentage of today’s oceans would have been contained in this planet’s watering system underground in caverns, etc.

Weather as we know it, did not exist on this planet, that is, until everything was shattered in one fell swoop. Did God use an small asteroid crashing into earth? It doesn’t say. But however God accomplished this, the result was then end of the ‘Windows of Heaven’, then end of the global watering system, both releasing their waters upon the earth, with earthquakes lowering plates below the surface of the oceans and raising them up from the oceans floors and then lowering them and raising the original above ground areas upward, sending mighty currents or waves around the world again and again and again. This is why the sediments that we calculate should be in the ocean are not there, but rather, we find them on top of the land, even on top of the mountains. This is why we find gigantic amounts of mass extinctions within the layers of the earth, and why we find fossils that extend from within one layer that supposedly took thousands of years to be laid down into the above layer that also supposedly took thousands of years. Sometimes the evidence extends through many layers of the earth! We even find animal tracks climbing upward through the layers being laid down until we find the animals themselves caught in the last layer they manged to climb into before they were buried alive. This is why we find swirls that mix the lower and upper layers together in pretty wheel patterns within the two entirely different layers, something that is completely impossible to happen if those layers are laid down over the time periods science confidently says they were, but not impossible and even expected, if those same layers are being laid down rapidly within minutes by great raging turbidites passing through dumping their loads. (Bloat and Float?)

I am not saying everything has to be exactly as I have put it together for you, but all the elements the bible speaks of are in play in this quick run through the numbers.

The pre-flood peoples had never seen rain before, nor storm clouds and raging winds and probably lightning also. They must have been terrified beyond belief as the dark clouds formed and blotted out the sun, leaving them in ever increasing darkness as the rate of rainfall steadily increased while the ground under them broke up and jets of continuous water shot into the sky with explosive force. Yet just prior to that, they had confidently stated the world continues just as it always has, self assured in their knowledge and science that God, whoever that was, had no power to destroy them or their world.

We humans are like that.

KorbenDallas said:

This article is a wild hypothesis at best. I am not aware of any older images, or texts supporting what I am about to suggest. That is that Helen from Troy was either not a human, or, if she was a human, she was a woman-operator of a specific device.

As we know, per the narrative, the Trojan War lasted for 10 years. It was fought by the Greeks against the city of Troy. The war was started because Paris of Troy took Helen from her husband Menelaus. Menelaus was the king of Sparta. His brother Agamemnon led an expedition of Greek troops to Troy. Agamemnon was the king of Mycenae.

• The events of the Trojan War are found in many works of Greek literature and depicted in numerous works of Greek art. There is no single, authoritative text which tells the entire events of the war. Instead, the story is assembled from a variety of sources, some of which report contradictory versions of the events. The most important literary sources are the two epic poems traditionally credited to Homer, the Iliad and the Odyssey, composed sometime between the 9th and 6th centuries BC.
• KD: Essentially, this war was fought over a woman, lasted for 10 years and first textual sources were discovered after 1400 AD.

This article is not about the time frame of the Trojan war, but just like with any "ancient" event, the antiquity appears to be quite questionable.

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As it stands, I can only see two reasons for fighting major long wars. These reasons are:

• Power
• Technology

Anything else (e.g. looting, population extermination, liberation, anti-slavery etc.) will either be a short local skirmish, or will fall under the above two categories.

Helen of Troy​

We are to believe that for 10 years, thousands of people (and many Gods) were involved in various combat related activities over a... woman. I am not trying to diminish the role of women in history, but the duration vs. reason did not sit well with me. In other words, I always thought there had to be something else to this war, and then I ran into this:

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From the same book we get the following:

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After reading a few pages from the above 1794 book, the Trojan War started to make more sense, for we end up with the following meanings for Helen:

• Fountain of Light
• Eye of Light
• Fountain of the Sun
• Eye of the Sun

We all know, that Ra is the ancient Egyptian God of the Sun. Naturally, the Eye of Ra sounds like the most interesting lead to follow. We will, but for right now, let's see if we have more than just one book talking about this Fountain of Light and the Sun.

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The below excerpt could be significant. We will revisit it later.

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The Eye of Ra​

The Eye of Ra is a being that functions as a feminine counterpart to the sun god Ra and a violent force that subdues his enemies. The Eye is an extension of Ra's power, equated with the disk of the sun, but it also behaves as an independent entity, which can be personified by a wide variety of Egyptian goddesses. The Eye goddess acts as mother, sibling, consort, and daughter of the sun god.

• She is his partner in the creative cycle in which he begets the renewed form of himself that is born at dawn. The Eye's violent aspect defends Ra against the agents of disorder that threaten his rule. This dangerous aspect of the Eye goddess is often represented by a lioness or by the uraeus, or cobra, a symbol of protection and royal authority.​
• The Eye of Ra ​

Sounds like the Eye of Ra could be associated with a female-type being. I am not sure we fully understand what the word "being" exactly means, but... Helen of Troy was a female being as well.

A Device?​

Per the narrative, the Eye of Ra can be equated with the disk of the sun, with the cobras coiled around the disk. I don't know about you, but with coiled things and those hanging Ankhs...

• ...this disk of Ra makes me think of some unknown technological device.​

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And for any technological device an operator is required.

Hathor & Sekhmet
- the operators -​

Hathor was a major goddess who played a wide variety of roles. She was one of several goddesses who acted as the Eye of Ra, Ra's feminine counterpart, and in this form she had a vengeful aspect that protected him from his enemies.

• Hathor

Sekhmet was a warrior goddess as well as goddess of healing. She is depicted as a lioness. She was seen as the protector of the pharaohs and led them in warfare.
Sekhmet is a solar deity, sometimes called the daughter of Ra and often associated with the goddesses Hathor and Bastet. She bears the Uraeus, which associates her with Wadjet and royalty, and the solar disk.

• Sekhmet

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Of course, there were other operators of this eye-device, e.g. Isis, etc. (don't ask me about the cow-bull thing).

Ra and Horus​

I am not gonna bore you with reciting wikipedia on these two. The PTB disclosure on Ra and Horus you can read on your own. To be honest, I doubt those were two different Gods, but with our messed up narrative, one can never be sure. All those "merged with" and "associated with" gods can be really confusing.

• Ra was the god of the sun, order, kings, and the sky. He was portrayed as a falcon and shared characteristics with the sky god Horus. At times the two deities were merged as Ra-Horakhty, "Ra, who is Horus of the Two Horizons".
• KD: that's some confusing stuff.
• Wiki about Ra

Both Ra and Horus, or both when merged into Ra-Horakhty had their respective Eye-Disks:

• The Eye of Horus is similar to the Eye of Ra, which belongs to a different god, Ra, but represents many of the same concepts.​
• Eye of Horus​

Sometimes, both Ra and Horus are depicted as falcons. Sometimes Ra has this Eye-Disk over his head, sometimes Horus has it and sometimes both do. Many images of these two gods have no Eye-Disks shown.

• Gods look the same​
• Eye-disks look the same​
• Eye-disks "represent many of the same concepts"​
• And... At times the two deities were merged as Ra-Horakhty, "Ra, who is Horus of the Two Horizons".​

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I think there is a possibility that these "eyes" were either one and the same, or two (or more) similar eyes aka technology based devices.

Trojan War and Ancient Technology​

Could it be that the event we know as the Trojan War was fought over a piece of "pre-flood" ancient technology other than over a woman? As was suggested, there are reasons to think that the said war did not happen thousands of years ago, but rather 600-700 years ago. As we know, history is written by victors. Losers are normally not allowed to contribute. What if the reasons for this (highly questionable by some) war were totally different?

• A. Helen (The Device - The Fountain of Light - The Eye of Ra - The Eye of Providence) was always in Troy, and Greeks/Achaeans spent 10 years trying to conquer Troy to get the tech?
• B. Trojans (Paris?) somehow stole the device, and Greeks tried to get it back.

Allow me to bring this 1726 excerpt again.

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Apart from a narrative friendly meaning of this "light shining in man", I could suggest two additional interpretations:

• 1. Cloning can be scientifically harnessed. But... would cloning provide a human dummy with proper consciousness and soul?​
  • Could it be that our Fountain of Light (Helen, Eye of Ra, etc.) was a device providing clones with the "light shining in man"?
  • Ancient Genetics Factory. The Temple of Artemis.
• 2. A "Divine Light" machine teaching the knowledge of the so-called Gods... a "Divine Knowledge" of sorts. ​

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Could it be that the Fountain of Light was a teaching device similar to the one you can see in the Battlefield Earth movie.

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KD: Just like I said, this is merely a hypothesis supported by a lot of "may be's". As you can see, I do not have much. On my own, I will never be able to dig up anything significant. But who knows, may be the Eye of Ra is what we have on the US dollar bill (in addition to all the other instances), and could it be that this is that Fountain of Light that provided us with our Industrial Revolutions and other tech, including successful cloning?

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Please feel free to contribute.

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Things start assuming a complete different meaning.

All this makes me think about what the true source of reality is. Do we get inputs from the sunlight coming into our eyes or are our eyes projecting another kind of "light" that creates what we are aware of? When the Third Eye, the Pineal Gland, is activated, reality suddenly changes, its meanings suddenly change. So is reality something we perceive or create? And what about the light that makes us see the content of our dreams when we sleep? Where it comes from?

Atlantis said:

Ra's disc is most always red. Why? The red color in the spectrum means a less intense light than the orange, yellow, green, blue, and violet light spectrum. A red sun means the spectrum is skewed to the infrared or to a less intense energy. We saw that in the California fires with smoke and particulates in the sky, light from the sun is absorbed by them and re-emitted as reddish light. So we must assume the sun at that time was was either much less high frequency light emitting or certain particulates in the atmosphere or clouds caused the absorption and re-emitting of light in the red and infrared spectrum. There are pictographs of Egyptians fishing, planting rice, taking care of animals, etc. with only a skimpy wrapping about the genitals at least for men. Now if you were to do this in the present sun condition even a native Egyptian would be severely burned after a couple of hours. Now your skin needs to be covered completely to avoid burning in the midday sun, therefore the atmospheric conditions when Ra was ascendant lessened the frequency of light creating an environment of less light frequency intensity. A workable hypothesis is that the atmosphere was denser and had a variety of particulates high in the sky which allowed light from the sun to be absorbed and re-emitted as red light . These series of particulate cloud formations in the dense atmosphere is like a blanket which would absorb the raw sunlight light and re-emitting it in the red and infrared creating a world where the temperature gradient around the world was a comfortable 75 degrees(approximately) F all the way to the poles. The sun could be seen but only through the haze of the particulate band clouds. The asp circling the Ra sun is the band clouds that covered the sky. There were many of these band cloud formations circling earth in the beginning. When a catastrophe happened the band particulate cloud nearest the earth would precipitate out of the atmosphere with its particulates and cover the earth. These were usually mixed with rain and caused the oceans to swell when a band cloud touched down. These cloud catastrophes had positive and negative effects. Flooding was a concern and temperature instability causing coolness. These crashes were the prime cause of ice age intervals. The Stele of Lady Taperet shows the cloud band or "The Asp" is shown releasing the waters and materials from heaven. The different colors of the "rain" shows many elements were contained in these Asp band clouds. Clay, sulfur, carbons, and other materials rained down upon the land. The layers of clay, sand, gravel and other materials dropped have no lifeforms in the material. They were dropped from the sky. These cloud band dropping events triggered cultural collapses and increased the oceans. The red Ra was at the end of the band cloud world where the sun was seen dimly as a red god causing these events. Approximately there were 14 of these events that was the cause of the periodic ice ages.

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Do we know if the sun ever change color as it moves through the zodiac's? During the age of Pisces where most of us were born and grew up in we were used to a yellow sun. Now that we are in the age of Aquarius the sun is white. If that is the case the sun has multi colors as it moves from zodiac to zodiac. So at some time in the past we could have had a red sun.

Disk of Ra description: Hanging cobras could be jumper cables.



And the Ankhs could be something like an electrical clamp



The hieroglyph for ankh even shows a waveform (like an electrical current)

Atlantis said:

{snip}There are pictographs of Egyptians fishing, planting rice, taking care of animals, etc. with only a skimpy wrapping about the genitals at least for men. Now if you were to do this in the present sun condition even a native Egyptian would be severely burned after a couple of hours. Now your skin needs to be covered completely to avoid burning in the midday sun, therefore the atmospheric conditions when Ra was ascendant lessened the frequency of light creating an environment of less light frequency intensity. {snip}

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A minor point that most are likely not aware, but the reason *most* humans "burn" in the sun is because they are unknowingly very acidic, to the point to being dangerously toxic, a state we call acidosis. The truly healthy human, living in harmony with species-specific ways, will be alkaline, and will not, i repeat, not, burn. I have not used sunscreen my entire life, and i do not burn, and trust me, living in Mexico and Costa Rica, i got lots of sun. This is just a gentle thought, not meant to disparage.

KorbenDallas said:

• ...this disk of Ra makes me think of some unknown technological device.​

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Have you seen the recent Thunderbolt Project vid. on this subject?

this remembers me the sumerian tower of babel, (later adopted by other religions).
it is said that the ruler/God said that if the humans built a tower of that size, it will reach the home place of the ruler/God.

but current buildings, skycrapper, are by far larger than the babel tower.

and the ruler/God specifically didnt wanted the humans to reach that high, to reach the home place of that ruler/God., where it resides.

so, let us think out of the dogma.

what there is, that is so important at that high?

energy.

so, tartarians, masons, sumerians, egyptians ,tesla, etc knows about the energy/power from air. and we know it from artifacts, mason buildings, pyramids, tales, etc.

if the God is energy, at that high, you have energy, electricity from air.
that can be told as the place where the ruler/God reside, its homeplace.

the plus:
that also tells that that non empty space, where the energy flows/arises infinitely, called aether by tesla, or zero point energy area (where outputs.energy from nothing), or God's homeplace,(infinite.from nothing) by religions, or divine by the water messages, it is and should be the same in order to support the life around.

then
precious knowledge about energy then could be preserved in roman/egyptian pyramids, in religions as the babel tale.

knowledge, use, of the energy source, place it was important. that is teached as the ruler/God plus religions/rulers didnt want the people use it.

knowledge of that infinite source of energy is hidden to the masses.


as someone said when realizing electricity is everywhere in the aether: you cant put a meter to it.